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Jacob Amman , The first illiterate Amishman ?

Sunday, November 7th, 2010

Revised -12-10……………..And now , the very first Amishman ever , appears to very probably have been illiterate , unable to write  anything more then his initials , and that crudely , and perhaps not able to read much , either .

In today’s world , to be illiterate is considered a sign of a somewhat backwards person . Add to that the word Amish ,and you may have something to be appreciative of .

In this day and age , that would be a very unusual state for an intelligent man  like that to be in . In the late 1600′s this was a very common thing to be ,untaught in letters , and unless you happened to be fortunate and be educated , you were illiterate .

That Jacob Amman (Jakob Ammann) was a very smart and articulate man , is not in doubt . After all , the Amish today almost revere him ,as the No. 1 Amish man , the very first one of them . Skewering  his Spiritual foes with words , if not in deeds ,was his specialty.

So we will here lay out a few things we have found about him , 300 years after his times.

1. There are about 50 documents that bear Jacob Amman’s name or initials that are known of today. His religious tracts , or decrees , almost all have his full name written out . They also have a tone that even today says they were dictated to , and most probably written out by someone else , who could write. Certain phrases like “I, Jakob Ammann” are completely foreign to Anabaptist writers of that time , who would never put their own names in the forefront of anything . That he was a speaker of great talent , and able to keep up with anyone in an argument , is not in doubt at all. A skilled  verbal warrior who never flinched , is in evidence by his actions . He was an Anabaptist Bishop , and as such excommunicated ,or banned numerous of his spiritual foes , once he even banned himself . The Amish today Applaud almost everything he is noted to have done like that .

He also brought back the practice of “feet washing” at communion . All Amish and most Amish rooted denominations still practice it today , without question as a doctrine . Almost all Anabaptist had dropped that at that time as a cultural thing , with the Spirit of Servant hood overriding the act of Feet washing at Communions.

We wonder , do churches that practice feet washing today ,have more ,or even as much Servanthood spirit , or unity, as Churches that do not practice that .?

2. And now we mention the official documents that still exist today in ancient official archives  in Europe .Close to half a dozen legal papers have been found that pertain to Jacob Amman. In all of them his signature is a very crude , almost unrecognizable , J. A. The most fascinating one is this account. (Comer ,France).

The Anabaptist group there in the Markirch valley (Ste Marie Aux Mines area , only miles from the Wagler ancestral home village of Audre) were cutting wood one day when a tragic accident happened . An Anabaptist named Zimmerman , who happened to be quite deaf , got in the way of a falling tree and was killed. The group conferred and then did a quite surprising thing . They quickly , and quietly went and buried him ,without reporting the incident to the authorities . This may have been a time of a lull in the almost unceasing persecutions , and they perhaps wanted to keep away from all officials . However , the Authorities did get wind of it , as often happens in situations like that , and demanded answers to what happened . It mattered not that Anabaptist were still being drowned , burned , and what not in many parts of Europe even then . they hauled the leader Jacob Amman , in and questioned him about the accidental death of the citizen , and then a report was made out and Jacob Amman , as the Anabaptist leader signed it officially . Two very crude initials are followed by a french Official’s certification of his full name , and that “This Anabaptist man could not write ” ,” but that this was his Mark’.

I mentioned this to an Amishman who is quite well versed in Amish history , And his thought was that , as an Anabaptist of note ,  perhaps Amman pretended he could not read , to defer attention from himself . (Perhaps a clever ploy).

3. An official Baptismal record exists from the Swiss Reformed Church that lists Jacob Amman”s daughter as being Baptised and joined to the Reformed Church in 1730 . In it She described her deceased father as being an Anabaptist teacher and that he had died out of the Country .  At least one Amish historian today believes he may have died in America , or on the way over to America . He may not have made it to the new lands , but his influence surely did .

4. If you are a part of an Anabaptist Amish or Mennonite Church that practices Feet washing at Communion services , You are influenced by Amman .  This practice had been dropped by almost all Anabaptist except a few in Holland , when he insisted it was Biblical ,with no exceptions. When he insisted on anything , it was a do-or -die thing to him .

Very fascinating indeed.

(These historical accounts attributed to Wm McGraph, John A. Hostetler , and others)

Karcher pressure washer Repaired. Our way

Saturday, July 17th, 2010

We opt to buy the little yellow Karcher pressure washers , because they tend to work quite well , at least until they break , or burst a water pipe inside them . They cost a bit over $100 , even cheaper on E bay . We plugged one in over the weekend  , hooked up the water hose to it , and were surprised to hear the hissing of a major water leak from within the little yellow monster . True , we had not had possession of it in some time . Maybe it froze last winter , or something somewhere. I have before taken these things apart , and maybe coincidentally  , the water leak has always been in the same spot . It is an L shaped piece to which the pressure hose screws to , and it is a rather weak looking elbow , with the end extending through the yellow wall , and the 20 foot pressure hose screws directly to it .

The fact that the little  yellow machine comes with only a 20 ft washing hose , makes me think the company expects you to often yank on it , and eventually to burst  that little elbow the hose is screwed to . The plug in cord is 30 ft long.

Well , what do we do now? lots of water is hissing out , an obvious job-stopper from cleaning chore , it seems.

I stop , unhook and unplug the machine , and get my trusty screw drivers . Surprise , they have now fastened the thing  together ,with little star screws for which I have no bit   , obviously they do not want the user to mess with the insides  of little yellow. I get the idea after reading all the warnings , that they would rather I would just chuck it , and buy a new one , until that one leaks .

One of it”s predecessors had sprung the same type of leak , at the same spot , but I had easily taken it apart and found the problem . I had tried to clamp it , patch it , glue it, and what not . I never did fully stop it on the earlier machine , perhaps because of the high pressures involved .

And this machine I couldn’t”t even dismantle to address what I felt was the problem .

Well ,we are not giving up yet  today. After due consideration and pondering , we laid the yellow monster flat , and operated on the yellow shell with a sharp utility knife . we cut a hole about 4 by 6 inches around the protruding connection .

Sure enough, the approx 4 by 2 inch pressure elbow was split at the elbow itself . With a flat screw driver I unhinged the funny looking connection and pulled the offending , and split elbow free. After closer examination , I was surprised to see , that where the elbow came off , deep in the little yellow machine , was a treaded connection that looked as if it may fit the pressure hose end to . Taking the knife up again , I enlarged the bottom part of the hole  I had gored into the yellow contraption . I put the pressure hose in to the new treaded part in yellow”s innards , screwed it tight with a pliers , and Lo and behold , It works fine . No water leak at all .

Admittedly , we have to lay the machine on it”s back  for now , because the pressure hose sticks out the bottom instead of out the side , but it works fine . and we have parts left , a broken elbow and several pieces of yellow Karcher shell.

Think about  that , Mr. Karcher and your cheap machine, we outwitted you this time , and saved our “dime” for later.

Jess Wagler Abbeville SC    July 17-10.

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The Possum Trap that Worked was Chinese

Monday, July 5th, 2010

We ran into a serious snag with our young Chickens lately. The Dozen Rode Island Red Pullets were Okay , except 5 of them turned out roosters . At the appropriate age we turned them with the 6 older hens in the main pen . The very first night , something got into the wire enclosed pen and slew 2 of them . over the next few nights they kept getting gone until there were 8 young ones left .

The problem seemed to be they did not climb up far enough ,with the older hens to sleep ,and some terrible creature was eating them ,one at a time. I got out my old Have-a-hart trap and baited it , but had no luck with it . On thinking it over , I could not remember ever having caught anything much with it over the past years . I think we have caught Cats with it , but not wild things . Have-a-hart technology has to be a hundred years old , with wires and 2 gates and complicated door latches , that if they do not snap right down just so , will not hold.  Whatever was killing the chickens was too smart for it . Another young hen disappeared , we are down to 7 .

And so we go to the feed store , to ask advice . We figured out it had to be a Possum , with the way it got into the pen and then climbed up and took just one hen. They had the Have-a-hearts , but we already had one of those and they seemed inadequate .

And Oh yes , they had another type of cage trap , Chinese made . It was large and sturdy , only had one big flopping door , and had a really simple system of metal rings that slid down and secured the door ,once it flopped shut. I was impressed by the simplicity of it . And chances were , generations of Possums had not had time to study how to avoid being caught by them . Well , we purchased it , took it home and set it , and went to bed. In the morning we were  pleased to see a large , fat , grinning Ole Mr. Possum setting in it , safely locked inside.

We were so happy to have caught this natural Criminal , we happily showed it to the Family . And that presented a problem as to my scheme as to how quickly to get rid of it . (It had something to do with the shovel , and a solid thud or two ).

“Oh , Daddy you can’t kill the poor thing , even if it did in a few of our precious hens”". and that was it . After breakfast , my slow turning mind tried to think of some way to dispatch the rascal . Well , If I cannot kill it ,perhaps someone else can , and perhaps eat it too.

That is it , a brilliant idea ,but  like so many other great ideas , easy to think up , but much harder to carry out to it’s fruition .

I took the trap, possum and all into town to show and hopefully unload to one of my ethnic friends. The Possums grin seemed to get wider every time someone admired him , then declined to take possession of him . I spent an hour riding around with him still there , in the bed of the truck.

All right , I can’t kill you , I can’t give you away , so Ill just have to let you go , but miles away from my Chickens it will be . So I took the brute to an empty house in town that had a tall tree in the yard . (Yeah ,we own it ). I open the cage door .For a minute he does not move, but finally ambles out of the trap and straight for the big tree. He gets to the tree and climbs, about the same speed as he had walked on the ground he now climbs . Up,Up and away , climbing like a cat to about 30 feet up , then he flattens out on a branch and looks mournfully down at me . “”Wow”" he may think ,” that was a close one ”.

NEWS & VIEWS JUNE-JULY-August -2010

Wednesday, June 23rd, 2010

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14. The awlful Army Worms are here . First you see moths laying eggs . within days a long creepy crawly comes out and starts to eat everything in it’s path , acres of it overnight. We have not had a dose of them in years , but now is the time , with the dry weather and all . Rain seems to kill them off .

The unusual thing for our Mennonite groups here in Abbeville SC, is that we have not a one full time farmer , or any crop bigger then a garden , and that is pretty well over with .

Even the Beef herds have almost disappeared in this area . They about could not give the hay away this summer , there was so much of it .

Sept. 07-10

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13. And so , what is your name , birth name  ? Famous folks do not get that way with their original ones .

John Denver”s was Henry John Deutschendorf , Larry King”s was Lawrence Harvey Zeiger , Ralph Lauren”s was Ralph Rueben Litshitz ,Bob Dylan”s was Robert Zimmerman  , and Tiger Woods ? Eldick Tont Woods . Very few of the world”s so called famous get that way with their birth names .

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12. We recently used Western Union to send a bit of money , or wire it , as they put it . Today they use a computer , and for a 10% charge ,with a minimum $5 charge . They can send money anywhere that has a Western Union sign out ,available in minutes.The sender puts in his name , the recipient”s name and approximate location ,or city it goes to . Every town has a number of those places with Western Union signs . All the recipient needs to present is his or her ID ,the amount of $ expected , and the sender”s name . That”s it . I’m not clear how they did it before computers . Maybe a telegram or something , but it must have been more complicated .

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11. Carolina Springs Academy ,or CSA ,here locally in Due West, SC  , has been closed now for some time  , the grass is unkempt and uncut and the Rednecks in the Area have a chance to Strip out a place that richly deserves cleaning up . A privately run place, not religious in it’s programs  ,It was supposed to be a place that straightened out  troubled teens that were sent in from all over the USA , paying 4-5 K per month for the “boarding ” fee for each of the 150 or so troubled teenagers .

It appears plain now it was all about the money , including a suspicious major fire several years ago . We had visited  the place only once , on “Sunday Morning Mission ” and were rather uncomfortable while there . It felt like it was a sham of some sort .

It is unfortunate that so many zealous  minded Mennonites were so easily fooled by this place . It would seem, too that there will now be a lot less testifying about one”s good deeds for the Lord , at least about  this particular place ,in local Churches .

. Disturbing details of abuse and sheer greediness and dishonesty seem easy to believe now , about that place . One of the more evil details of the departure of this Carolina Springs Acadamy  crowd, is that they left their Horses and other animals in their pens to die in the searing summer heat , and many did , without water or food. The animals were for therapy for the troubled youths . 08-09-10

08-16-10 Look up the owner of CSA .Narvin lichfield , for an eyeful. also ,I”ve sometimes wondered why CSA  Internees were  even allowed to leave the campus every 2 weeks to go play at a nearby Mennonite Church Gym , with it’s good influence .

Well , as it turns out ,it was a Court Ordered thing , not any particular concern for the students” well being . It was required by SC Court order that each Student there had an “opportunity” at least twice a month to attend an Off-campus activity . The  chosen Mennonite   folks were simply serving as the school”s patsies , it seems  , to keep them legal. Maybe they did some good , if they mentored these students to go the right way , after they went back to their homes .

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10 The Oasis (Mennonite ) Chorale gave an artistic performance recently here in Abbeville that we attended . This Anabaptist group of about 35  nice young folks have as their written goal ,

“”To call it’s Singer and its Audience to thoughtful Worship of the true God through artistic Choral  Music sung skillfully”"

They had a well written up handbook that very neatly explained , or tried to , what exactly it was they were proceeding with  doing . People that love and or, say they understand artistic Music really said they enjoyed it . To me , it was evident I would need more “call” to grasp it , as almost none of the “chorals” were familiar to me .

Car loads of Mennonites from all over the Southeast USA were present , some must have come hundreds of miles for this one performance. We have from time to time been exposed to this type of high Fluten’  choraling , and must say this was the closest we may have ever come to understanding what they were attempting to present , with the neat handbook and all.  I”m glad we were there .

It still makes me wonder what kind of singing Jesus and his disciples did , and I”d  wonder if  it was this type of singing , or choraling. July 28-10

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9. This super-heat wave since June 10 is about getting to us all . Almost no outdoor activity after 12 noon . One rather strange thing we are seeing again is a few energetic people trying to figure out how to cool their houses down more . That is by hooking up a sprinkler, and running it to keep their house roof wet all day . I”ve not seen this done anywhere but in the south , usually it is deep into a hot spell , when people have somewhat addled thinking ? Our take on this is it does little or no good , and can literally boil your asphalt shingles ,in the 120 degrees plus in the sun .

Much more important is that you have insulation above your ceilings , and some type of air-flow between the insulation and the hot roof . Even a little insulation is so much better then none . The air flow is just as important or more so then the insulation .

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8.Perhaps no one since the Puritans several hundred years ago have really appreciated  Long winded or overtime Preachers .It is claimed that they reveled in 2 hour monologues from their pastors while closely watching their seatmates for any sign of fatigue ,and then bopping each other smartly as needed .

Our own view on this long windiness is that the vast majority of overtime Preaching  is only a sordid display of arrogance , of the Preacher”s , that is .

We can see a brother perhaps miscalculating the time , but a Preacher droning on and on while my Dinner gets overcooked is something else indeed ..totally unnecessary in every way. The Bible even warns about those who make a great show about themselves like that . The sound of one”s own voice should make one be briefer , not everlasting  in lofty words…

In most such situations , look around . Most folks are either visiting openly , watching the children ,or snoozing ,or dreaming about roast beef..July 24-10

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7.We noticed our AC unit was not putting out like it should . We know we need to clean the outside AC coil every year , but do we do it  ? No , not once in 6 years .

Like a farmer that never changes oil in his expensive equipment , we let it slide , until now . We checked online and asked a bit about what to use . Most of the local AC guys just use “Purple power soap”" and charge about a hundred bucks . It has to be used just so and needs to be handled carefully to not damage anything .

I ended up ordering some EZ pour coil cleaner stuff off eBay . it is made for that and comes with easy to follow instructions . With a garden hose to rinse it off , it took about 15 minutes to do and the brackish water just poured off of it .  We see immediate improvement in AC output .

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6. We have just enjoyed a slice of good Rhubarb pie . No, Rhubarb does not grow in the south at all .  About once or twice a year it shows up at the local grocery store”s produce dept . at $4. A Pound .

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5.We recently spent 4 days in May”s Lick Ky. at my parent”s house , an Amish Community . The Amish youth of that area weeded My Brother”s garden one evening , as they were off medical  traveling .

Wow , I”d forgot how Amish can work . The young girls just dropped to their knees , ripping the weeds out with their bare hands . This went on for 2 hours . And the Boys ? they mostly just hauled the weeds off with wagons and wheelbarrows .

This particular Amish community makes use of small solar chargers and 12 volt batteries hooked up to fans and lights in every which way . Any fan is better then no fan in hot weather. And thats a fact .

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4. There is now a radio program out in Lancaster called “Amish Wisdom” that tries to cash in on all things Amish . Is that a Spoof of our fine site here ? Probably not .

I Think a better Name-ring  for it would maybe have been  “Amish Answers ” .July 08-10

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3. The WSJ notes today that Steel prices are falling rapidly , and that is a very bad omen for the economy . we just hope Congress extends the unemployment payments for the long -unemployed . There are a lot of people depending on it . July 07-10

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2.Our Southern Heat wave is almost 2 weeks old now . Upper 90′s in the afternoons and mid 70′s at night . Visitors that visit now tend not to move here. June 25-10.

update July 07…Now a lot of you are in a real heat wave ..enjoy , but drink lots of water , not soda pops.

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1. There’s somewhat unfortunate news in the Newsweek . According to them, the human Brain keeps growing till about 28 years old them goes downhill . And that has got to be nonsense . It does note that Wisdom itself can keep increasing .

The Schwartz singers , from Jackson, Ohio

Monday, June 21st, 2010

We took time off from the Heat to go enjoy this Old-time group at a local Church last night , June 20th . Most Plain folks (That have cars) ,over about the age of 40 have probably heard these siblings sing at some point . The younger people tended to not enjoy it as much as the older ones.

They did sing the  ‘The tattler’s Wagon’ song , by request . I have never heard anyone but them sing that particular song , so we assumed they had composed it . We were surprised when in conversation with Peter Schwartz , he noted .”No , we didn’t write that song”. I first heard that particular song sung by them in the mid-60′s . They lined up on our front lawn , and it was the 1st time I had ever heard the much warned about ”Part singing” That the Aylmer rulers so disdained. It seems they feared it might lead to Dancing , perhaps even enjoyment .

Certainly ,they were a very common group with no airs about them , and no jokes to spice up the rhetoric. We can appreciate that as we’ve always had a question about singing groups that announce that they are for ”the Glory to God” . And then the whole program shouts ”Look at us , we are so good”. The word to describe this family of singers might be ”Just common people singing for the Lord”.

We were fortunate to enjoy popcorn and watermelon,and conversation with them later at the place they stayed at .

After I disclosed to Peter Schwartz that I was raised at Aylmer ,he reeled off numerous incidents and experiences he had there while visiting there . Over the last 50 years .

He once tried to discuss Spiritual concerns with the ”Bishop” , Peter Yoder up there , in Aylmer . I guess that didn’t go that well . Peter Yoder was my Uncle , and also the head honcho in Aylmer , then ruling it all with a steely resolve  . I always thought of him as a rather mild man , and cannot recall ever having had a serious conversation with him . He somehow got unplugged from the top spot there , and wandered from place to place for several decades , before dying of old age right back at Aylmer ,Ont, and is buried there .R.I.P. Uncle Pete………..

He also related about the infamous “Hay Baler rule” that was in effect at that time in that Aylmer Amish Church. I had always rather doubted that rule as it was not something I actually knew about , even as I was raised there , in Aylmer . Peter Schwartz told me that his friend Joe J Miller , who lived there in the late 60′s ,told him the details of it . It went something like this .

Some of the Amish Farmers in Aylmer needed to have their hay put into small bales . Having it hired out to ”English”  was not allowed . What was allowed was a hay baler with steel wheels with a power unit motor mounted on it . The whole thing was pulled around with horses . First they raked the hay in different piles in the field , and the horses pulled the contraption from pile to pile , where the farmer used his hand-held hay fork to fork the hay into the baler . Later , in an unusual twist , the farmers were allowed to have the horses pull the baler , with motor running ,alongside the furrow of raked hay , while the Amish farmer walked briskly along too , forking the hay the few feet from the hay row into the baler . Much to the glee of passing ‘English ‘ farmers.

Peter Schwartz said his friend , Amishman J J Miller way back then made the comment that ,”I would rather let my hay rot into the ground , then do something like that “‘.

Talking about  Uncle Pete reminded me of another infamous rule he tried to enforce on his lowly charges. The way I recall this is that he was so adament that the Ownership of automobiles was evil to the extreme , that he decreed that if any of his members ever owned an auto anytime in the future , no matter where or how , they would be followed up and banned . This meant that no matter how many Churches they passed through to get to where they could get a car , they would still be banned by the Strict Aylmer Group . They may not have been members there in decades . That shows a real meanness of Spirit , though I”m not sure if that rule was actually enforced .

Maybe it was a bit like the Pilgrims long ago did . They were afraid that somewhere , someone was having enjoyment or ease of some sort , and they intended to stop it in any way possible .

‘Take Back Your life”.. Seminar . Lancaster Pa. Week of June 14-18 2010

Thursday, June 10th, 2010

Any one reading this may recall we earlier wrote on this type of approach to ”Shock” your spiritual life . Perhaps in the same way you treat your pool to keep it clear .

Any one there this week needs to keep a few things in mind , that we as an alumnae feel we  have observed.

1. Leave your Anabaptist beliefs at the door . One general idea one may get after attending this session , is that they too often try to undermine , and somewhat make fun of Anabaptist belief and practice. Especially Amish .

2.At least one of the speakers somewhat has in the past seemed  full of himself. And is sometimes a show-off , especially to female audience members.

3. That said , there is still some truth there . 80% ,perhaps or 70% , is our estimate . No, it won’t change anyone’s life that much unless they apply the word , though it may give a lot of food for thought . At $210 per person attending , there is money involved too , so we suppose it needs to be a performance , in some ways .

4. An attempt , perhaps unintentional , seems to be made to break down the Biblical and Anabaptist belief that Man & Woman do have separate Spiritual places in some ways . Some of the needed reserve between the sexes (People not married to each other ),appears to be negated & or minimized .

5. In retrospect of the session 2 years ago here in SC, is one of the more sobering Theories one of the speakers put forth , I believe it was Steve Stutzman . He noted that the  Strongholds of the Principalities of evil are somewhat different in different regions of the Country . He noted that in some Eastern States , Among the Churches  the principality of Things rules in many Churches . Nice  Lawns , nice Cars ,  nice Houses , are oh so important there .

Then he noted that in many Churches in the Mid-west , it is all about the Money one has or appears to have.

In some Western areas , he noted it was all about Education , The principality of learning  rules over all else , in getting our eyes off of Jesus .

“And now”, he asks , leaning over the podium and staring at us as only he can do it ,”What do we sense when we come to the South ?”

At that moment I got a rather uncomfortable feeling , I was pretty sure what was coming then ,and it was correct .

“The South “, he stated empathetically,” Has serious issues with the principalities of the evil of Immorality in it ,Immoral sins in the Church, and in the communities ” ” And it reeks to high heaven ,and God is not pleased”.

And he hit that nail right on the head . Those of us who have lived in the South for decades are perhaps more used to it then we should be. Sexual Sin of every type is quite commonly practiced and perhaps even often tolerated in the Plain Anabaptist Churches of the South . The Preachers in most Plain Churches I am familiar with in the South , have retreated somewhat from dealing with it , and seemingly try to settle matters like that Privately , and then throw a cloak of secrecy over it .

If it is a preacher, or a very “Religious Strait coat” person that is involved , they tend to throw several cloaks of secrecy over it . Then it continues to multiply . Maybe it is the intense heat , or the tepid water we drink ? More likely it is the Devil that gets a Stronghold and won”t let up .

Throwaway Cell phones here now.

Monday, May 24th, 2010

Cell phones came in in big the 90 s . They were very expensive at first , but have been getting cheaper every year . We are locked into a 2 year contract with 5 phones , including 1 blackberry . The pay-by -the minute option is getting cheaper by the month .

We recently needed a car -charger for my phone , which happened to be a samsung . Buy them anywhere separate and it costs $5 to 10 for every one of them . That is each .

The local dollar store has a rack of them (Phones) so I spent some time studying them ..

I ended up buying a bottom of the line trac phone. all packaged up . A car charger , a house charger , a headset unit , and a phone holder . All the accessories fit my own phone because they were the same brand, and the same accessories . By activating it online , I got 20 free minutes too . And this particular phone has double minutes featured in too . Any minute card you buy later is automatically doubled .

And the phone itself , that we bought ? It looks exactly like a play phone , almost completely plastic . So cheap looking one would almost be ashamed to show it in public . But it does work , If you use a pencil or a toothpick to push the tiny buttons .

The price for all this ? $10 plus tax .

Christian Healthcare Ministries (CHM) article update

Sunday, May 16th, 2010

Ah we haven’t been putting much time or effort into the Wisdom part of the writing . We had mentioned this Health organization as an alternative to a Church run thing , or a regular Health policy . And we can recommend this .

We came out , about 5 yrs ago of a small Church run Health “Sharing” plan that became corrupt and eventually had to fold . I was actually an Officer in that plan , and can express empathy with Trustees of well-meaning plans everywhere. If the more vocal members of any plan prefer something ,they will get it no matter what. To be fair to all may sound good , but is not always biblical .

Almost all plain Aid , or so-called “Sharing” Plans end up like that , including Property protection ones that lose their way with all the fairness thinking . We are watching one of those now, that clearly seems corrupted .

To our pleasant surprise , someone read about it on this site ,The Christian Healthcare  CHM . Studied it , and subscribed to the Ministry (Health-care)  , and credited us with the ‘sell’. We get a month’s dues free . Thanks , this is the 1st monetary gain we have made off this site . If anyone else cares to credit us after looking this system up , it is  CHM Membership No. 110788.That is us , and we would be glad to forward any needed info .

We are wanting to write up another article on Biblical Church building in progress. We recently had a speaker that taught on the book of Romans , on Holiness and how it is to be applied in Real Life , hopefully . This particular Preacher left no stone unturned , and ‘gored’ about every one’s favorite ox or religious theories on Church building.

The problem on these articles we occasionally attempt to bring forth, is that a lot of our ”dear readers” vehemently oppose about everything mentioned . That these quite often happen to be Preachers’ Trying to protect , or enhance their Turf , is beside the point ,we suppose .

By about the 3rd night of the Romans teaching week , I realized that This educated Teacher and preacher  made anything I say or write here look polished and diplomatic indeed .He was extremely blunt and straight to the point , and mostly right on , too. I privately asked him about his education , and he admitted to having earned a Masters degree in Theology . This in itself is very unusual , an Anabaptist preacher with a religious degree. And he knows and can apply Greek , to get to the meaning or annotation of a particular scripture or passage.

I’m always amused when and if I witness a relatively uneducated Anabaptist Preacher trying to build a sermon on or around a ‘Greek” word or two from scripture . He may have no education on it , and may not be able to read or write a single word in Greek , But by much shouting and gesticulating trys to impress his sheeple with his ‘Greek” knowledge , which is simply not there.

This particular speaker is scheduled to return for a wrap-up on the week-end of June 18-20 . We would feel there was Truth there , in his efforts to share .

Note as of  July– 10  The June meetings were canceled . He seems to have stepped on too many toes , to be had back .

In the time when Jesus was on the earth , a group of  seemingly very Religious people approached him with tricky questions and flowery speech . Jesus assured them they would not see the Truth , was it possibly because they were not looking for it ? Could it not  be the same today ?

Living Air ….The Ozone making machine

Saturday, April 10th, 2010

And now , a totally new concept of an air cleaner for the house .While shopping at the local thrift store , I happened to come upon a gadget I at first thought was an air cleaning machine . It was about a foot square , quite heavy , and had a charcoal filter on the back . The best part was the price $5 , which seemed quite reasonable for that heavy a thing . I pried off the filter on the back and peered into the back of the contraption . Instead of  air cleaning type of stuff , it was filled with mirrors and springs and odd looking components .

We happened to have $5 burning a hole in the pocket just then , so of course we bought it . We went online and found we now owned an Ozone producing machine . Made in the USA , in Greenville TN , it originally was supposed to sell for between $600 -800 . E Bay had lots of them listed at the $200 plus range ,so at least the price was right for us ..

But had we bought something we could use ?? Exactly what had we bought , and how had we missed knowing about this thingy-ma-jig all our life ?? According to the info we dug up , over a billion dollars worth of these contraptions have been produced , by this one company alone . They sell them with selling teams . The more you sell , the more money you make .

This is an Ozone producing gadget , which is activated oxygen . There is quite a bit of contention whether or not this is a healthy thing , to be exposed to this stuff . The State of California outlawed the sale of the machines in 2007 .

People that like the thing , are adamant it’s a wonderful thing . Others are not so sure . Part of the sales pitch is that running this machine in the house makes the air smell ”fresh” , or ”like the end of a thunderstorm” . Or like ”a swimming  pool ”’.

To be continued .

Fortune Tech FTHM …….An Educated examination

Monday, March 8th, 2010

There may be a buying Opportunity coming up soon for you to join up in the Fortune Tech 500 team . It will cost you $299 to start off with , with add on’s it runs in the $500-600  range .To set you up ,but don’t forget the yearly renewal fee . But will it at all set you up and make you rich ??? Almost everyone in this area has been approached about this .

Hold off till we get the article linked up here , and it just might save you some $$$$ , by considering some facts before buying into this . Are we writing this ? Not me , I am not smart enough to trace these sources.  Someone from our contacts is …

And remember just because you hear a knocking sound , does not say it’s an opportunity . it may be the engine blowing .

Here is the link to the analytical article. (March 09 -10)

Ah ,I had to read it twice to figure out that the vast majority of folks who signed up with this thing have thrown their $$$$$$ away . You’ll never  see daylight on it , and please don’t sign on to continue it next year .

Update: Click here to read this analysis of FHTM